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alex7070

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Applications for Android and IOS
« on: December 26, 2021, 03:40:13 PM »
Hello! Now more and more users are using smartphone apps. Many well-known message boards have their own smartphone apps. Is there any help or advice on how to create such an application for osclass? For example, for wordpress sites there are plugins to help you create a smartphone application. Happy New Year!

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Vlad7

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2021, 04:33:02 PM »
I support you. There are only two types of users. The first one is ordinary users who like to quickly log in from their phone and view the information they need while lying on the couch between watching TikTok, YouTube and other entertaining applications.

And the second type is managers who sit in the office at their desktops, promoting their products. but they, too, are now transferring preferences to tablets by working remotely at home.

Therefore, I shield that there is no point in advertising a bulletin board without a mobile application. I've spent a lot of money on Google ads and users are leaving the site, preferring to post more ads in my group on Fecebook.

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2021, 05:40:24 PM »
There are many concerns regarding apps:
- price - most of people think they will get native fully functional & customized app with all features osclass has for 50$... But it cost hundreds to thousands. Spanish guys tried it, 400$ for average app - no sales at all
- having 500 android users does not mean 500 app downloads, I would bet 5-10 real downloads for selling/buying needs
- person working using tablet or mobile instead of using laptop is fool and will not be more productive using app
- most of your customers are probably people those sell or buy something from time to time, it does not make sense for them to have 1 extra app
- now you tell you are ready to invest 1000$ into app that will be used by 10 people. Wouldnt it better to invest those money in way all customers will benefit? Seo, speed, cdn, new features,...
- saw some apps from india guys on evanto market or similar for 99 ios & android.. check sales, reviews and comments...does not make sense at all.
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alex7070

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2021, 05:57:43 PM »
There are thousands of bulletin board sites and there is serious competition. Which bulletin board do you think a person who has an android application or does not have an application will choose? For WordPress sites, there are almost free plugins for creating applications.

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Vlad7

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2021, 10:29:05 PM »
There are many concerns regarding apps:
- price - most of people think they will get native fully functional & customized app with all features osclass has for 50$... But it cost hundreds to thousands. Spanish guys tried it, 400$ for average app - no sales at all
- having 500 android users does not mean 500 app downloads, I would bet 5-10 real downloads for selling/buying needs
- person working using tablet or mobile instead of using laptop is fool and will not be more productive using app
- most of your customers are probably people those sell or buy something from time to time, it does not make sense for them to have 1 extra app
- now you tell you are ready to invest 1000$ into app that will be used by 10 people. Wouldnt it better to invest those money in way all customers will benefit? Seo, speed, cdn, new features,...
- saw some apps from india guys on evanto market or similar for 99 ios & android.. check sales, reviews and comments...does not make sense at all.


I agree with you that a mobile application is a very expensive pleasure, and we are not competing with AliExpress.com or eBay.com, sellers search and place their products on many platforms, which also take money or a percentage of the sale. Therefore, the seller is looking for any platforms to sell. But the seller needs buyers, and buyers are very lazy, and if a simple buyer knows how to use a mobile browser, then he is already an advanced Internet user.
There are many message boards that offer users their mobile applications, and users still leave them as soon as you run out of money in Google Ads. This is mainly due to the fact that buyers do not find what they are looking for. This is for one reason.
- sellers place their products wherever they can, copy the same text and take photos from the Internet, sites become similar to each other and lose search privileges, the buyer also sees that everything on the site is the same as on other sites, therefore leaves.
In this situation, there is a way out by focusing on attracting just ordinary, ordinary users. Non-advanced users give exclusive content and original photos, arranging their garage sales, they do not attract sellers, but ordinary buyers just like them. Now communities and groups in Viber, Telegram and fecebook are very popular precisely because of their easy and quick accessibility, they are always at hand, I think that initially osclass was created for this as an adaptive and convenient platform.
I do not blame you at all, forgive me for my bad English, I think osclass has every chance to become an excellent platform and this is only your merit, you made a huge contribution, revived and raised the project to the highest level. It remains only to somehow make smartphones become friends with osclass.
Android and iOS create space for themselves, displace the home computer and Internet browsers, become monopolists of services, most likely we will either have to adapt to their mobile environment or create our own environment. But in order to create your own environment, you need to be in a smartphone.


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Vlad7

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2021, 04:56:12 PM »
This is an excellent solution

https://forums.osclasspoint.com/veronika-osclass-responsive-theme/veronika-theme-manifest-json-problem/msg31252/#msg31252

Great solution, but it didn't work for me. Where to put the files app.js, manifest.json, sw.js. ?

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7ala

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2021, 05:28:48 PM »
sw.js in the root of the site ( htdocs )
Icons with a file manifest.json in one folder

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Vlad7

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2021, 08:24:44 PM »
sw.js in the root of the site ( htdocs )
Icons with a file manifest.json in one folder
button does not work
<div class="add-to"><button class="add-to-btn"><?php _e('App Web', 'veronika'); ?></button>
         </div>
tell me where to put the app.js file?


Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2024, 06:16:26 PM »
Mobile app would have been great. After Covid, things changed and the penetration to mobile specially in india has seen double digit growth YoY. When companies talk about failures, the most important aspect they do forget is to not put themselves in customer shoes and think as business owner rather end user/customer. A mere investment today specially in todays digital world wher Gen Z / millenias are mobile savvy, nothing can be a success with only web app.

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Re: Applications for Android and IOS
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2024, 10:05:10 PM »
No plans now or in future for app.
You may pay app developer if that's really key to success, but I do not think so.
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